--- title: "2011June5" id: "4529" type: "page" slug: "2011june5" published_at: "2026-05-13T02:04:53+00:00" modified_at: "2026-05-13T17:08:05+00:00" url: "https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio/meetings/2011june5/" markdown_url: "https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntustudio/meetings/2011june5.md" excerpt: "UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 – Ubuntu Wiki Source: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 2011June5 Ubuntu Studio Meetings Schedule Old Meeting Logs Ubuntu Studio Meetings Schedule Old Meeting Logs What: Ubuntu Studio Contributors Meeting When: Sunday, 2011-06-08 – 17:00 UTC To view the meeting date/time in your time..." --- # UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 – Ubuntu Wiki Source: [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5) ## [2011June5](2011June5) | Ubuntu Studio Meetings Schedule | Old Meeting Logs | | --- | --- | [Ubuntu Studio Meetings Schedule](index) [Old Meeting Logs](Minutes) **What:** Ubuntu Studio Contributors Meeting **When:** Sunday, 2011-06-08 – 17:00 UTC **To view the meeting date/time in your time zone,**[click here](http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Ubuntu+Studio+Contributor+Meeting&iso=20110605T17) . **Where:** irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-meeting | Contents Agenda for Meeting Meeting Logs Mootbot Output | | --- | Contents 1. [Agenda for Meeting](2011June5#Agenda_for_Meeting) 2. [Meeting Logs](2011June5#Meeting_Logs) 3. [Mootbot Output](2011June5#Mootbot_Output) ### Agenda for Meeting If you wish to discuss anything not in this agenda, please wait until Any Other Business is called for. - Call Meeting to Order - Old Business none - Oneiric Timeline (Scott) Rough timeline can be found [here](../../Oneiric/Timeline) Please look over and make changes so we can firm it up Do people want it in chronological order? - Website Update (Jorge/Scott) When will we have “final” form to look at? Where is it going to be hosted? Define what content will/will not go onto website Can we plan a date to go “live”? - XFCE/UI Changes (Cory) Do we have a tentative date for new -settings/-look packages? Do you need help or testing? Is there a newer screenshot for the new UI prototype? Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? - Menu changes (Scott) Should we additional sub-menus for Audio Production? For example, for MIDI, synthesizers, or effects. Anyone interested in organizing and effecting this? ScottL can provide technical assistance. - Documentation Updates (Ailo/Scott) Clarification: generally help.ubuntu.com is for users and wiki.ubuntu.com is for developement The plan is to reorganize the help.ubuntu.com documentation We will be deprecating older pages, modifying current ones, and creating additional pages as needed Is anyone else interested in assisting? ScottL would also like to work on wiki.ubuntu.com - New Applications (Scott) plugins – mda-lv2, eq10q, autotalent,invada-studio-plugins-lv2, vocproc, wah-plugins, foo-yc20, amb-plugins, dssi-vst, lv2vocoder, omins ladish – ladish, gladish, ladi-tools mudita24 – envy24control update, trying to get into Debian in time for Oneiric - Testing Procedures Still need testing procedures developed Is anyone interesting in organizing and effecting this? - Libre Graphics Magazine Ad (Scott) We have an opportunity for a free, full page ad in Libre Graphics Magazine Should we time this with Oneiric’s release? Should we form a small group to help with brainstorming ideas and creating the ad? - Advocacy ideas (Mike) - Team Reports (Scott) We have a monthly team report that Canonical uses at [UbuntuStudio/TeamReports](../../TeamReports) ScottL would really like it if someone else would volunteer to keep up with this It is not hard and is a very easy way for someone to get involved and contribute to the team - Announcements (Scott) The calendar/schedule for Oneiric is at [OneiricReleaseSchedule](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule) LightDM will replace GDM in Oneiric Ocelot - Any Other Business (all/anyone) - Next Meeting Time/Location - Next Meeting Chair - none - Rough timeline can be found [here](../../Oneiric/Timeline) - Please look over and make changes so we can firm it up - Do people want it in chronological order? Rough timeline can be found [here](../../Oneiric/Timeline) - When will we have “final” form to look at? - Where is it going to be hosted? - Define what content will/will not go onto website - Can we plan a date to go “live”? - Do we have a tentative date for new -settings/-look packages? - Do you need help or testing? - Is there a newer screenshot for the new UI prototype? - Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? - Should we additional sub-menus for Audio Production? For example, for MIDI, synthesizers, or effects. - Anyone interested in organizing and effecting this? ScottL can provide technical assistance. - Clarification: generally help.ubuntu.com is for users and wiki.ubuntu.com is for developement - The plan is to reorganize the help.ubuntu.com documentation - We will be deprecating older pages, modifying current ones, and creating additional pages as needed - Is anyone else interested in assisting? - ScottL would also like to work on wiki.ubuntu.com - plugins – mda-lv2, eq10q, autotalent,invada-studio-plugins-lv2, vocproc, wah-plugins, foo-yc20, amb-plugins, dssi-vst, lv2vocoder, omins - ladish – ladish, gladish, ladi-tools - mudita24 – envy24control update, trying to get into Debian in time for Oneiric - Still need testing procedures developed - Is anyone interesting in organizing and effecting this? - We have an opportunity for a free, full page ad in Libre Graphics Magazine - Should we time this with Oneiric’s release? - Should we form a small group to help with brainstorming ideas and creating the ad? - We have a monthly team report that Canonical uses at [UbuntuStudio/TeamReports](../../TeamReports) - ScottL would really like it if someone else would volunteer to keep up with this - It is not hard and is a very easy way for someone to get involved and contribute to the team We have a monthly team report that Canonical uses at [UbuntuStudio/TeamReports](../../TeamReports) - The calendar/schedule for Oneiric is at [OneiricReleaseSchedule](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule) - LightDM will replace GDM in Oneiric Ocelot The calendar/schedule for Oneiric is at [OneiricReleaseSchedule](https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule) ### Meeting Logs ``` 1 13:00 < holstein> #startmeeting 2 13:00 < MootBot> Meeting started at 12:02. The chair is holstein. 3 13:00 < MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] 4 13:00 < holstein> WELCOME ubuntu studio contributors team :) 5 13:01 < holstein> [topic] agenda UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 6 13:01 < MootBot> New Topic: agenda UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 7 13:01 < holstein> lets get started 8 13:01 < holstein> who is here? 9 13:01 < holstein> o/ of course..., and? 10 13:02 -!- scott-upstairs [~scott@conr-adsl-dhcp-64-92-4-194.consolidated.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 11 13:03 -!- falktx [~falktx@95.69.116.16] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 12 13:03 < scott-upstairs> i'm here for the meeting 13 13:03 < scott-upstairs> o/ 14 13:03 < holstein> scott-upstairs: i just dropped the link to the agenda UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 15 13:03 < holstein> and started roll-call 16 13:04 -!- astraljava [astraljava@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 17 13:04 < holstein> astraljava: hey 18 13:05 < holstein> im sure folks will sneak in 19 13:05 < holstein> and ckontros is here 20 13:05 < scott-upstairs> oi, here 21 13:05 < holstein> anyways... 22 13:05 < astraljava> holstein: Sorry for being distracted. 23 13:05 < holstein> [topic] old buisness 24 13:05 < MootBot> New Topic: old buisness 25 13:05 < holstein> i have "none" 26 13:05 < holstein> and i think that is accurate 27 13:06 < falktx> hey guys 28 13:06 < scott-upstairs> yes, i don't think we have anything carrying over this meeting 29 13:06 < holstein> just thought id pose that as we wait for folks to trickle in 30 13:06 < falktx> my first IRC meeting, please be gentle 31 13:06 < holstein> falktx: welcome :) 32 13:06 < scott-upstairs> lol 33 13:06 < holstein> astraljava: no worries 34 13:07 < holstein> [topic] Oneiric Timeline UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline 35 13:07 < MootBot> New Topic: Oneiric Timeline UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline 36 13:07 < holstein> scott-upstairs: you added this 37 13:07 < holstein> i think its shaping up 38 13:07 < holstein> scott-upstairs: you want to discuss a bit? 39 13:07 < scott-upstairs> oi, yes...just a rough time line, please review it and the things your responsible for/helping with and adjust as needed 40 13:08 < scott-upstairs> at some point (very soon hopefully) this will be a little more fleshed out and we can start maintining a better schedule for this cycle 41 13:08 < scott-upstairs> we can use this to gauge our process and also as reminder of what we need to do and when we need to do it by 42 13:08 < holstein> [action] review the timeline at UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline and adjust/help as needed 43 13:08 < MootBot> ACTION received: review the timeline at UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline and adjust/help as needed 44 13:08 < scott-upstairs> furthermore it shows how other things are depending on the current task (if applicable) 45 13:09 < holstein> scott-upstairs: you mention putting it in chronologic order 46 13:09 < holstein> i say, if someone wants to do that, let them 47 13:09 < holstein> otherwise, its working for me as-is 48 13:10 < scott-upstairs> yes, i thought that putting it in chronological order would help understand how things should move forward 49 13:10 < scott-upstairs> but the colors would help people associated related items 50 13:10 -!- furn [~furntree@cpe-67-244-74-145.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 51 13:10 < holstein> scott-upstairs: it wont hurt, i could look into doing that 52 13:10 -!- _guitarman_ [~guitarman@mail.wootangent.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 53 13:10 < scott-upstairs> for example, the website tasks which would span many months but are defintely related 54 13:11 < scott-upstairs> holstein, but i wanted to make sure people had made their edits first 55 13:11 < holstein> [action] holstein to re-order the timeline chronologically 56 13:11 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein to re-order the timeline chronologically 57 13:11 < scott-upstairs> i thought it would be easier to do that way...or at least less confusing 58 13:11 < holstein> eh, i dont mind looking at it later too 59 13:11 < holstein> if i need to re-do some things 60 13:11 < holstein> anyways, i'll either do that, or ask for help with it :) 61 13:12 < holstein> scott-upstairs: anymore on that? 62 13:12 < scott-upstairs> not at this time, holstein 63 13:12 < holstein> [topic] Website Update 64 13:12 < MootBot> New Topic: Website Update 65 13:12 < holstein> i was hoping kokito would be here, but he said he couldnt be 66 13:12 < scott-upstairs> right, but i have some information...and not all is good 67 13:12 < holstein> anyways, scott-upstairs, do you have links handy you want to drop here? 68 13:12 < holstein> or news? 69 13:13 < scott-upstairs> jorge will cease working on the website effectively immediately because he is taking a new job that will move him to japan 70 13:13 < scott-upstairs> :( 71 13:13 < scott-upstairs> the relatively good news is that what he has done is fairly mature and can be used 72 13:13 < scott-upstairs> but we will still need to do a few things however 73 13:14 < scott-upstairs> we need to discuss where we are going to host it 74 13:14 < scott-upstairs> firstly 75 13:14 < scott-upstairs> does anyone have any opinions on this matter? should we continue to squeek along with canonical hosting and limited access or should we push forward and host ourselves? 76 13:15 * scott-upstairs hears crickets chirping 77 13:15 < holstein> scott-upstairs: i think it depends 78 13:15 < furn> scott-upstairs: i think anything that helps the ease of use for the end user would be a good choice 79 13:15 < holstein> as of now,t he cannonical hosting is not working for us 80 13:16 < holstein> furn: hello 81 13:16 < scott-upstairs> right, i recently (two days ago) got access to our website sent to me so we are not relying on eric anymore for updates 82 13:16 < furn> holstein: afternoon kind sir 83 13:16 < holstein> scott-upstairs: im comfortable leaving that up to you 84 13:16 < scott-upstairs> however i would suspect getting other access would be as laborious and i can't do everything in this matter 85 13:16 < holstein> if you feel like thd current system can work now that you have access 86 13:16 < scott-upstairs> so i would push for hosting ourselves but i want to get input from others 87 13:16 < holstein> i mean, we can vote it out 88 13:17 < scott-upstairs> right, holstein, make an action item please about me researching what is available for hosting, i.e. price, bandwidth, storage, etc, etc 89 13:17 < holstein> [action] scott-upstairs to research alternative hosting plans 90 13:17 < MootBot> ACTION received: scott-upstairs to research alternative hosting plans 91 13:17 < astraljava> scott-upstairs: Do we have any measurements, like how many are accessing our site daily? 92 13:18 < scott-upstairs> basically i feel that unless someone strenuously disagrees with us hosting our own i'll research it and put it to the group 93 13:18 < holstein> scott-upstairs: you want to leave it at that for now? and vote next time with mor information? 94 13:18 < astraljava> scott-upstairs: Might help in deciding about the hosting. 95 13:18 < scott-upstairs> we still have to evaluate what the costs are and if we can do that 96 13:18 < furn> scott-upstairs: i think hosting ourself at any capacity at this point is a good option 97 13:18 < scott-upstairs> aye, but would everyone agree with putting up five quid to help ;) 98 13:18 < holstein> scott-upstairs: thats the issue 99 13:19 < holstein> we need to have all the information, and go from there i say 100 13:19 < holstein> lets table it til we get some #'s 101 13:19 < holstein> let me/us know if we can help gather information 102 13:19 < scott-upstairs> i can ask jorge via email too about hosting, he seemed to indicate that it shouldn't be that big of a deal 103 13:19 < furn> could we setup a donation system on the site as a non profit? 104 13:20 < scott-upstairs> i think cory mentioned away to get some funds as well, perhaps from canonical? i'll ask cory as well 105 13:20 < scott-upstairs> we could do that furn 106 13:20 < holstein> [action] vote next meeting about where the new site will be hosted 107 13:20 < MootBot> ACTION received: vote next meeting about where the new site will be hosted 108 13:20 < holstein> im going to skip the XFCE topic in hopes that ckontros makes it back 109 13:21 -!- mammig [~mammig@ARennes-556-1-97-249.w109-211.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 110 13:21 < furn> i think at this point with so many indie devs having paypal donation buttons, the act of politely suggesting the point of donation isnt quite as audacious as it once was for free media 111 13:21 < holstein> [topic] Menu changes 112 13:21 < MootBot> New Topic: Menu changes 113 13:21 < holstein> furn: not to cut you off 114 13:21 < scott-upstairs> holstein, i can answer some xfce changes but i agree let's wait and see if cory comes back, if not we can go with what i know 115 13:22 * scott-upstairs is looking for screen shots 116 13:22 < holstein> scott-upstairs: personally, i like the generic menu items 117 13:22 < holstein> for example, when i need to burn an iso in brasero, that has nothing to do with the menu its located in 118 13:22 < scott-upstairs> other distros (many ubuntu studio derivatives) use additioanl submenus for audio applications 119 13:23 < holstein> i think some of that might happen with putting apps like qtractor in a MIDI tab 120 13:23 < scott-upstairs> example screenshot: http://tangostudio.tuxfamily.org/images/stories/tangostudio-karmasutra.png 121 13:23 < holstein> i mean, qtractor is *not* the go-to daw, but if you want to record audio with it 122 13:23 < holstein> and its in the MIDI menu... 123 13:23 < scott-upstairs> right, but synthesisers could safely be put into a synth submenu 124 13:23 < holstein> BUT, the scrolling for apps in the giant menu is a mess* 125 13:23 < scott-upstairs> the same for effects 126 13:24 < holstein> scott-upstairs: agreed 127 13:24 < scott-upstairs> the current menu IS better because we cut some 128 13:24 < scott-upstairs> my feeling is to leave it as is because it's a lot of manual coding to "fix" it 129 13:24 < holstein> well, thats my other argument too 130 13:24 < scott-upstairs> if other's feel that this is a benefit then i would be happy to make the changes 131 13:24 < holstein> its more work than i feel like we need to take on right now 132 13:24 < scott-upstairs> IF, and only IF... 133 13:24 < furn> holstein: i think everyone can nit pick about a menu item that isnt properly placed, but considering out somewhat savvy user base having something like qtractor under midi isnt too big 134 13:24 < scott-upstairs> someone can clearly identify what they want 135 13:25 < holstein> BUT, something we should keep on the table for the future for sure 136 13:25 < holstein> i propose we vote to put this off til the next cycle* 137 13:25 < scott-upstairs> i have it in the "release planning" wiki so it's not going away forever 138 13:25 < scott-upstairs> seconded 139 13:25 < holstein> cool 140 13:26 < scott-upstairs> obvisouly there isn't enough support for it :P 141 13:26 * ckontros is "here" but not here. Im just looking in when I break from cutting my grass. ;) 142 13:26 < scott-upstairs> ckontros, you want to talk about xfce? 143 13:26 < holstein> this is how you vote +1 / -1 / +0 144 13:26 < ckontros> Sure. 145 13:26 < holstein> ckontros: yeah, hang for a sec 146 13:26 < holstein> and you're next 147 13:26 < scott-upstairs> holstein, i'm not sure we need to vote 148 13:26 < holstein> [vote] hold menu re-vamp til next cycle 149 13:26 < MootBot> Please vote on: hold menu re-vamp til next cycle. 150 13:26 < MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot 151 13:26 < MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting 152 13:26 < scott-upstairs> only two voiced opinions and we both said nay 153 13:26 < holstein> +1 154 13:26 < MootBot> +1 received from holstein. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 155 13:27 < scott-upstairs> +1 156 13:27 < MootBot> +1 received from scott-upstairs. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 157 13:27 < holstein> well, its official :) 158 13:27 * falktx people type too fast... 159 13:27 < furn> hehe 160 13:27 < astraljava> +1 161 13:27 < MootBot> +1 received from astraljava. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 162 13:27 < falktx> can I show a quick screen shot ? 163 13:27 < falktx> it's about this 164 13:27 < christof> +1 165 13:27 < MootBot> +1 received from christof. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 166 13:27 < holstein> falktx: sure 167 13:27 < holstein> christof: hello 168 13:27 < holstein> i think thats the majority 169 13:28 < holstein> [endvote] 170 13:28 < christof> hi all 171 13:28 < MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 172 13:28 < scott-upstairs> can ckontros go? 173 13:28 < holstein> [action] postpone menu revamp til next cycle (12.04) 174 13:28 < ckontros> Sure 175 13:28 < MootBot> ACTION received: postpone menu revamp til next cycle (12.04) 176 13:28 * scott-upstairs is anxious to get him while he's here 177 13:28 < ckontros> But wait. 178 13:28 < holstein> [topic] XFCE/UI Changes 179 13:28 < MootBot> New Topic: XFCE/UI Changes 180 13:29 < falktx> basically I already have the code for this (more submenus) 181 13:29 < ckontros> IDK We have to become more familuar with how XFCE does menus. 182 13:29 < holstein> falktx: yeah, hold that til the end if you dont mind* 183 13:29 < ckontros> Im unsure if we can apply the same work we did in GNOME ot XFCE. 184 13:29 < falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr001.jpeg 185 13:29 < MootBot> LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr001.jpeg 186 13:29 < falktx> holstein: k, sorry 187 13:29 < holstein> falktx: no worries :) 188 13:30 < ckontros> falktx: But your install is all or nothing correct? 189 13:30 < holstein> ckontros: i would imagine its quite different 190 13:30 < scott-upstairs> mmm, falktx that is a good looking screenshot 191 13:30 < ckontros> Sorry to back-track but I gotta chime in. 192 13:31 < falktx> ckontros: nope, let me get you a quick deb 193 13:31 < falktx> here: 194 13:31 < falktx> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/kxstudio/+files/kxstudio-menu_3.0%7Egit20110527-0%7Enatty1_all.deb 195 13:32 < falktx> the deb is the stuff for this menu 196 13:32 < ckontros> falktx: So your saying your work applies to any menuing system? 197 13:32 < falktx> ckontros: yes, I made it work under gnome, kde and xcfe at least 198 13:32 < scott-upstairs> i think that xfce follows the freesektop.org guidelines better than other DE's 199 13:32 < holstein> agreed* 200 13:32 < ckontros> Ok. We'll look into this. Move along. :) 201 13:32 < falktx> scott-upstairs: kde does so, it's just gnome that is the weird thing, like they were the bosses... 202 13:33 < holstein> yeahm, we can always put it back on the table* 203 13:33 < holstein> anytime really, if we find that its something easy that we can handle 204 13:33 < falktx> sure, I usually around if anyone wants to know more stuff about it 205 13:33 < scott-upstairs> i still say that just because we can do this (adjust menu structure) that we shouldn't unless there is a demand 206 13:33 < ckontros> We might be able to do it this cycle 207 13:33 < scott-upstairs> and i don't think that the demand is really there apparently 208 13:34 < scott-upstairs> let' 209 13:34 < holstein> well, its postponed as it stands 210 13:34 < falktx> scott-upstairs: the menu gets pretty big and it's a pain to use... 211 13:34 < ckontros> scott-upsrairs: I say that we at least copy our current functionality. Unless *-menu was removed last cycle. 212 13:34 < ckontros> ie: With the A/V submenus. 213 13:35 < scott-upstairs> defintely copy our current functionality for now 214 13:35 < scott-upstairs> let's get some of the larger issues under our belt and then see about the restructuring 215 13:35 -!- Epirotes [~Epirotes@unaffiliated/epirotes] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 216 13:35 < ckontros> +1 217 13:35 < scott-upstairs> we still ahve to migrate to xfce 218 13:35 < scott-upstairs> THAT will probably be a bigger challenge than any realizes still 219 13:35 < falktx> does the US theme works on xcfe? 220 13:36 < ckontros> falktx: Generally, yes. I have to make a XFWM theme. And thats in progress. 221 13:37 < ckontros> Feel free to move to next item. 222 13:37 < scott-upstairs> hmmm, no ailo 223 13:37 < scott-upstairs> holstein, can ckontros do his bit? 224 13:37 < holstein> yeah, thats up 225 13:37 < ckontros> Wait, wait. Im not presenting. 226 13:37 < ckontros> I had no plans to anyway. 227 13:38 -!- bartje_ [510bba89@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.11.186.137] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 228 13:38 < holstein> ckontros: you want to just give an update? 229 13:38 < holstein> or drop some links? 230 13:38 < scott-upstairs> can you update about the xfce stuff and you mentioned banging heads together about a few things 231 13:38 < ckontros> Ill happily answer any questions. :) 232 13:38 < holstein> OK, that works 233 13:38 < holstein> any questions? 234 13:38 < holstein> Do we have a tentative date for new -settings/-look packages? 235 13:38 < ckontros> I mean things are gonna move better now that my uploading is sorted. 236 13:39 < scott-upstairs> yay :) 237 13:39 < ckontros> Im gonna shoot for 1 week for settings. 238 13:39 < holstein> Do you need help or testing? 239 13:39 < scott-upstairs> i guess we need to update the -desktop package first 240 13:39 < ckontros> -Look will be what it is untill I get some of the art folks settled. 241 13:39 < scott-upstairs> then -settings and -look ? 242 13:39 < ckontros> So -settings will have to hit then the seed changes. 243 13:40 < scott-upstairs> setting first? i would have thought we needed to update -desktop first 244 13:40 < scott-upstairs> wans't that what we were looking at earlier on pastebin? 245 13:40 < ckontros> No. Because -desktop is made from the seeds but will dep on *-settings. 246 13:40 < ckontros> IIRC 247 13:41 < scott-upstairs> this "chicken and/or egg" thing gets confusing sometimes :/ 248 13:41 < ckontros> ;) 249 13:41 < holstein> ckontros: you need help/testing ? 250 13:41 < scott-upstairs> so hopefully before Alpha2 we should have something to test? 251 13:41 < ckontros> So we can get things ready in the seeds and -settings but they should push to the srchine @ the same time. 252 13:42 < ckontros> *Hopefully* But Im thinking things will be rocky for a month or so. 253 13:42 < scott-upstairs> i imagine we will need to make adjustments (possibly many as bugs are found) to the seeds and -settings 254 13:42 < scott-upstairs> ckontros, so the plan is replicate our current functionality as far as UI right? 255 13:42 < ckontros> Side note to all this, we can test upgrade paths but my official stance is new installs. 256 13:42 < scott-upstairs> after we get things stable, then we shoot for a new UI? 257 13:43 < ckontros> Correct 258 13:43 < scott-upstairs> cool to both :) 259 13:43 < holstein> ckontros: Is there a newer screenshot for the new UI prototype? 260 13:43 < ckontros> holstein: No. 261 13:43 < holstein> the other question from the agenda is Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? 262 13:43 < holstein> i say, if its not dirt-simple, no 263 13:43 < ckontros> I'll upgrade the wiki with new info soon but its slow going at this point. 264 13:43 < holstein> i dont think its going to be a giant departure in look/feel 265 13:44 < ckontros> +1 (to no that is) 266 13:44 < scott-upstairs> maybe someone can hack something in a ppa to help users BUT 267 13:44 < scott-upstairs> if we move to a new UI it should be default and we should push that 268 13:44 < holstein> yeah, something unoffical is welcome for sure 269 13:44 < ckontros> Well, it kinda will. Just AWN at the bottom as opposed the the panel across the top. But all functionality is replicated. 270 13:44 < holstein> [action] Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? - not officially 271 13:44 < MootBot> ACTION received: Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? - not officially 272 13:45 < falktx> I have to pop up again here, as I am developing a replacement for *-controls 273 13:45 < holstein> ckontros: cool, thanks :) 274 13:45 < ckontros> np 275 13:45 < falktx> it is meant for kxstudio mainly, but I'm working to get it nicely goind with others distros too 276 13:45 < holstein> [topic] Documentation Updates 277 13:45 < MootBot> New Topic: Documentation Updates 278 13:45 < scott-upstairs> holstein, can we break and address falktx 's comment first? 279 13:45 < holstein> scott-upstairs: you want to comment? ask for help officially? 280 13:46 < holstein> scott-upstairs: sure 281 13:46 < falktx> can I continue? 282 13:46 < scott-upstairs> falktx, what does the -controls update do? what functionality? 283 13:46 < scott-upstairs> sure falktx :) you da man! 284 13:46 < falktx> for now the controls don't do much, as everything is already working in kxstudio ;) 285 13:46 * scott-upstairs has a strat and isn't afraid to play it ;) 286 13:47 < falktx> but it checks for the kernel version and user/audio thing now 287 13:47 < scott-upstairs> faltx one thing we have tried to do with updating -controls is to author the app with the perspective of someone "updating" from vanilla ubuntu to ubuntu studio 288 13:47 < falktx> the more important thing about this app it's that it contain other cool sub-apps 289 13:47 < scott-upstairs> so this would include checking if user is in audio group currently 290 13:47 < falktx> a jack-patchbay, a-la patchage 291 13:47 < ckontros> falktx: How about we team up and refine -controls rather then have parallel efforts? 292 13:48 < falktx> ckontros: we have different targets 293 13:48 < ckontros> Like? 294 13:48 < falktx> ckontros: for example, It also works as a plugin host 295 13:48 < scott-upstairs> oi, it controls jackd, can start applciations 296 13:48 < falktx> it manages WineASIO too 297 13:48 < falktx> screenshots coming 298 13:48 < scott-upstairs> you can install plugins (or at least assign where to look for them) 299 13:48 < falktx> this is the main app: 300 13:49 < falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr002.jpeg 301 13:49 < MootBot> LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr002.jpeg 302 13:49 < falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr003.jpeg 303 13:49 < MootBot> LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr003.jpeg 304 13:49 < falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr004.jpeg 305 13:49 < MootBot> LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr004.jpeg 306 13:49 < falktx> these are the 3 main tabs of it 307 13:49 < falktx> the first manages system stuff (jack, alsa bridge, a2j and pulse2jack too) 308 13:49 < ckontros> falktx: Well you mentioned "replacing" *-controls. SO if we have different targets, why replace? 309 13:50 < falktx> ckontros: cause I want to incorporate all *-controls functionality inside 310 13:50 < falktx> ckontros: once ready, I want to push it to debian too 311 13:50 < ckontros> Forgive me, Im just trying to understand how the targets are different. 312 13:50 < scott-upstairs> falktx, does it adjust jackd settings; rtprio, etc 313 13:50 -!- chilicuil [~chilicuil@unaffiliated/chilicuil] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 314 13:51 < falktx> scott-upstairs: it works with jackdbus right now. but I want to make it work with jackd too, soon 315 13:51 < falktx> ckontros: well, someone once told me that having WineASIO option in a US official tool was a bad tihng 316 13:52 < falktx> *thing 317 13:52 < scott-upstairs> ckontros, i think it is currently intended to target the kxstudio audience where many things we worry about are already configure by installation 318 13:52 < falktx> and that the "Audio Plugins PATH" management is also not very linux friendly 319 13:52 < scott-upstairs> and they target different applications, including vst, wineasio, and applications that falktx has written 320 13:52 < ckontros> falktx: Having the option for us would be no different than Debian. We just cant include the other packages by default. 321 13:52 < scott-upstairs> good work by the way 322 13:53 < falktx> thanks 323 13:53 < falktx> ckontros: I know, any non-working option can be hidden if needed 324 13:53 < falktx> for example, WineASIO stuff is auto-hidden if WineASIO is not installed 325 13:53 < holstein> maybe falktx and ckontros can discuss and report next meeting? 326 13:54 < holstein> sounds like something we could potentially take advantage of* 327 13:54 < scott-upstairs> +1 or until after we get a working install with xfce ? 328 13:54 < falktx> ckontros: I also target jack2 and ladish in partical (more focus to it), which I don't think US is ready for now 329 13:54 < ckontros> Sure. So, is this a situation where you just wanna do what you do and not work directly with us on our -controls app? I can get that. I just wanna be clear. 330 13:54 < holstein> [action] falktx and ckontros to discuss *-controls functionality and report 331 13:54 < MootBot> ACTION received: falktx and ckontros to discuss *-controls functionality and report 332 13:55 < falktx> ckontros: I can focus on the *-controls stuff if needed. but it's my own app, please understand 333 13:55 < falktx> I've been working on it since the last 4 months or more... 334 13:55 < holstein> as far as documentation updates, let me just action-item these entries 335 13:56 < holstein> [action] Documentation - Clarification: generally help.ubuntu.com is for users and wiki.ubuntu.com is for developement 336 13:56 < MootBot> ACTION received: Documentation - Clarification: generally help.ubuntu.com is for users and wiki.ubuntu.com is for developement 337 13:56 -!- jjohansen [~jj@static-50-53-37-130.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 338 13:56 < scott-upstairs> i was hoping ailo would be here for the documentation part but i have a structure for the help.ubuntu.com section 339 13:56 < holstein> [action] Documentation - The plan is to reorganize the help.ubuntu.com documentation 340 13:56 < MootBot> ACTION received: Documentation - The plan is to reorganize the help.ubuntu.com documentation 341 13:56 < ckontros> Ill let the meeting move on. And really, this isnt my call anyway as my involvement is for UI stuff and this cycle only. ;) 342 13:57 -!- apachelogger is now known as kernellogger 343 13:57 < holstein> [action] Documentation We will be deprecating older pages, modifying current ones, and creating additional pages as needed 344 13:57 < MootBot> ACTION received: Documentation We will be deprecating older pages, modifying current ones, and creating additional pages as needed 345 13:57 < holstein> [action] Documentation - Is anyone else interested in assisting? 346 13:57 < MootBot> ACTION received: Documentation - Is anyone else interested in assisting? 347 13:57 -!- sysdoc [~sysdoc@pool-71-105-36-163.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 348 13:57 < scott-upstairs> here is the proposed structure, please ignore/forgive the link top: UbuntuStudio/IntroTutVideos 349 13:57 < holstein> [action] Documentation - ScottL would also like to work on wiki.ubuntu.com 350 13:57 < MootBot> ACTION received: Documentation - ScottL would also like to work on wiki.ubuntu.com 351 13:58 -!- steveire_ [~quassel@kde/skelly] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 352 13:58 < holstein> scott-upstairs: i say, shout out when you need help, and feel free to assign me to said tasks 353 13:58 -!- vanhoof [vanhoof@canonical/vanhoof] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 354 13:58 -!- steveire [~quassel@kde/skelly] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 355 13:59 < scott-upstairs> right, i'll confer with ailo later about this, but unless someone strenuously objects AND wants to put forth an alternative, i'm going forward soon 356 13:59 < holstein> [topic] New Applications 357 13:59 < MootBot> New Topic: New Applications 358 13:59 < scott-upstairs> the basic goal would to be to make this more untutivie and user friendly 359 13:59 < scott-upstairs> ^^^ documentation 360 13:59 < holstein> yeah, im plowing on 361 13:59 < holstein> :) 362 14:00 < holstein> [action] plugins - mda-lv2, eq10q, autotalent,invada-studio-plugins-lv2, vocproc, wah-plugins, foo-yc20, amb-plugins, dssi-vst, lv2vocoder, omins 363 14:00 < MootBot> ACTION received: plugins - mda-lv2, eq10q, autotalent,invada-studio-plugins-lv2, vocproc, wah-plugins, foo-yc20, amb-plugins, dssi-vst, lv2vocoder, omins 364 14:00 < scott-upstairs> there are several new apps i would like to include and they support things 365 14:00 < scott-upstairs> oh, you posted it 366 14:00 < scott-upstairs> is that really an action? 367 14:00 < holstein> [action] ladish - ladish, gladish, ladi-tools 368 14:00 < MootBot> ACTION received: ladish - ladish, gladish, ladi-tools 369 14:00 < falktx> is ladish on 11.10 now ? 370 14:00 < scott-upstairs> i would like for us to move to ladish as well unless someone objects 371 14:00 < holstein> depends on if they are being added i suppose 372 14:00 < scott-upstairs> yes falktx 373 14:00 < falktx> cool 374 14:00 < scott-upstairs> they are in debian and ubuntu now 375 14:00 < holstein> more of a highlight than an action 376 14:01 < falktx> I have one thing that might interest you all right now 377 14:01 < holstein> [action] mudita24 - envy24control update, trying to get into Debian in time for Oneiric 378 14:01 < MootBot> ACTION received: mudita24 - envy24control update, trying to get into Debian in time for Oneiric 379 14:01 < scott-upstairs> functionality is still sketchy from my experience but i expect it to get better ;) 380 14:01 < scott-upstairs> what is that falktx ? 381 14:01 < falktx> take a look please - http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr005.jpeg 382 14:01 * scott-upstairs will talk about mudita in a minute 383 14:01 < scott-upstairs> can you explain the functionality falktx ? 384 14:02 < falktx> sure 385 14:02 < falktx> it checks for the current installed packages (not binaries), and displays them 386 14:02 < falktx> the list is hardcoded 387 14:02 < scott-upstairs> it seems that it duplicates some of the functionality of ladish however 388 14:02 < falktx> ^ because of this, we can know where docs are installed 389 14:02 < falktx> this way we can select an app and click "documentation" 390 14:03 < falktx> we can always create like "US-docs" package and point to it too 391 14:03 < falktx> this app also helps ladish, by providing pre-setup templates for many apps 392 14:03 < falktx> (anyone here knows about ladish internals?) 393 14:03 < scott-upstairs> falktx, i know some, can we discuss this together after the meeting? 394 14:04 < falktx> scott-upstairs: sure 395 14:04 < falktx> this can help the menu situation of menus too 396 14:04 < scott-upstairs> thanks, i fear other's eyes will glaze over otherwise and we're behind on the meeting 397 14:04 < falktx> instead of putting into the menu, let the app look for it and display it 398 14:04 < falktx> oh, sorry 399 14:04 < holstein> ok, moving on 400 14:04 < holstein> ? 401 14:04 < scott-upstairs> mudita24 is the next version of envy24control which is for ice1712 chips (i.e. maudio delta series) 402 14:05 < scott-upstairs> i'm hoping it goes into debian soon and then i'll file to sync with ubuntu if it isn't in time for debianimport 403 14:05 < scott-upstairs> okay, done 404 14:05 < holstein> [topic] Testing Procedures 405 14:05 < MootBot> New Topic: Testing Procedures 406 14:05 -!- acerimmer [4086883e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.64.134.136.62] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 407 14:05 < holstein> i dont think we have anything official to test 408 14:05 < holstein> so i say we hold that til next time 409 14:06 * falktx looks in debian git 410 14:06 < falktx> not there 411 14:06 < scott-upstairs> right but it would be nice to have someone who will oversee testing 412 14:06 < holstein> i was going to ask ailo :/ 413 14:06 < scott-upstairs> falktx, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/ladish 414 14:06 < holstein> he's really methodical about the tests we have done so far 415 14:06 < scott-upstairs> but he's really only been testing the kernel 416 14:06 < scott-upstairs> i really wanted someone to oversee all of it 417 14:07 < holstein> right, i was going to ask though :) 418 14:07 < scott-upstairs> remind people to test when builds come out 419 14:07 < scott-upstairs> develop testing procedures 420 14:07 < scott-upstairs> etc 421 14:07 < holstein> yeah, we need that* 422 14:07 -!- leoquant [~leoquant@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.leoquant] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 423 14:07 < holstein> hmmm... 424 14:07 < scott-upstairs> astraljava, you interested perhaps in helping with this? 425 14:07 < holstein> astraljava: ? 426 14:07 < holstein> hehe 427 14:07 -!- leoquant [~leoquant@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.active.leoquant] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] 428 14:07 < astraljava> scott-upstairs: Sure, why not. I'm not really a tester per se, but that's something I can do for contributing. 429 14:07 < scott-upstairs> *anything* is better than what we have currently 430 14:08 < scott-upstairs> astraljava, you can also look into the xubuntu testing process, they ahve some good stuff 431 14:08 < holstein> astraljava: cool 432 14:08 < scott-upstairs> i'll find the link for you later 433 14:08 < astraljava> Okay, that works for me. 434 14:08 < holstein> [action] astraljava to head up testing 435 14:08 < MootBot> ACTION received: astraljava to head up testing 436 14:08 < holstein> OK, moving on? 437 14:08 < scott-upstairs> sure 438 14:08 < holstein> [topic] Libre Graphics Magazine Ad 439 14:08 < MootBot> New Topic: Libre Graphics Magazine Ad 440 14:09 < holstein> scott-upstairs: this sounds really cool 441 14:09 < scott-upstairs> we have graciously been afforded a free full page ad in libre graphics magazine 442 14:09 < scott-upstairs> i would like to captilize on this ad for the changes in oneiric 443 14:09 < scott-upstairs> we have several months till then 444 14:09 < holstein> is there a way to make it generic? 445 14:10 < scott-upstairs> is anyone interesting in hellping with brainstorming, developing idea, and effecting the ad 446 14:10 < holstein> o/ 447 14:10 < scott-upstairs> holstein, do you think it should be more generic? 448 14:10 * holstein shrugs 449 14:10 < holstein> doesnt have to be 450 14:10 < scott-upstairs> my original thoughts were to celebrate our changes/improvements 451 14:10 < holstein> yeah, i can get on board with that 452 14:10 < scott-upstairs> to sell them as "better", which i think they are 453 14:10 -!- lostnbronx [~lostnbron@74-37-171-107.br1.sho.az.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting 454 14:11 < holstein> [action] holstein to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 455 14:11 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 456 14:11 < scott-upstairs> right, we can push this for further meetings and try to drum up support and develop things 457 14:11 < astraljava> I'm not into marketing and stuff, but I can help with technicals if needed. 458 14:11 < holstein> [action] holstein to get libre ad timetable information 459 14:11 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein to get libre ad timetable information 460 14:12 < holstein> [action] astraljava to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 461 14:12 < MootBot> ACTION received: astraljava to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 462 14:12 < holstein> cool... moving on 463 14:12 < holstein> [topic] Advocacy ideas 464 14:12 < MootBot> New Topic: Advocacy ideas 465 14:12 < holstein> [action] start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 466 14:13 < MootBot> ACTION received: start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 467 14:13 < holstein> [action] holstein start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 468 14:13 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 469 14:13 < scott-upstairs> holstein, did you get that fedora marketing link? 470 14:13 < holstein> i want to have something folks can easlily link to to show folks 'the buzz' 471 14:13 < holstein> scott-upstairs: im not sure... would you link it again? 472 14:14 < holstein> so it gets counted 473 14:14 < holstein> i want a place where folks can add their personal blogs such as http://dullass.blogspot.com/ 474 14:14 < scott-upstairs> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing 475 14:14 < holstein> i think the xubuntu team has a lot going on in this department, and im looking forward to emulating 476 14:14 -!- Destine [~destine@ubuntu/member/Destine] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 477 14:15 < holstein> [action] for marketing ideas see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing 478 14:15 < MootBot> ACTION received: for marketing ideas see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing 479 14:15 < holstein> not sure why that link didnt get counted* 480 14:15 < holstein> anyways.. moving on 481 14:16 < holstein> [topic] team reports UbuntuStudio/TeamReports 482 14:16 < MootBot> New Topic: team reports UbuntuStudio/TeamReports 483 14:16 < scott-upstairs> here is the link for team reports: UbuntuStudio/TeamReports 484 14:16 < scott-upstairs> it's not hard to do and this would be a great way for some newer person to help the team 485 14:16 < holstein> scott-upstairs: i can help with this too i think 486 14:16 < scott-upstairs> is anyone interested? 487 14:16 < scott-upstairs> holstein, that would be outstanding my friend! 488 14:16 < holstein> i used to do it a bit for our loco 489 14:17 < holstein> [action] holstein to help with team reports 490 14:17 < scott-upstairs> cool :) 491 14:17 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein to help with team reports 492 14:17 < holstein> [topic] announcments - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule 493 14:17 < MootBot> New Topic: announcments - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule 494 14:17 < holstein> * LightDM will replace GDM in Oneiric Ocelot 495 14:18 < scott-upstairs> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule is the new schedule for oneiric proper 496 14:18 < holstein> scott-upstairs: anything else in announcements? 497 14:18 < scott-upstairs> and as holstein mentioned lightDM will be replacing GDM 498 14:18 < scott-upstairs> this will mean some significant changes and will require hacking and testing 499 14:18 < scott-upstairs> that's it for me 500 14:18 < holstein> [topic] Any Other Business - OPEN 501 14:18 < MootBot> New Topic: Any Other Business - OPEN 502 14:18 < astraljava> Which means we should have it in for alpha2, no? 503 14:19 < scott-upstairs> okay, gotta run, kids are getting nuts downstairs and i need to help :/ 504 14:19 < holstein> astraljava: i would think 505 14:19 < scott-upstairs> astraljava, it will be ready to test after we update the seeds/-settings package 506 14:19 < holstein> we'll keep an eye on the updates as they come in though 507 14:19 < astraljava> scott-upstairs: Gotcha. 508 14:19 < holstein> anyone else?? 509 14:19 < scott-upstairs> by the way, i'll post minutes on this later this week 510 14:19 < holstein> questions, comments? 511 14:19 < astraljava> On other business, I intend to look into tasks. 512 14:19 < astraljava> ubuntustudio-desktop doesn't work for natty, nor oneiric. 513 14:20 < astraljava> Not sure about earlier than that. 514 14:20 < holstein> astraljava: i didnt try them actually 515 14:20 < holstein> if you want, i'll help track that down sometime 516 14:20 < astraljava> holstein: I'm afraid no one did. 517 14:21 < holstein> if its an issue of testing, and looking at a log, i can do that 518 14:21 < holstein> last time i tried was 10.04 519 14:21 < holstein> anyways... onward and upward i say 520 14:21 < holstein> astraljava: lets try and make sure we look at that in 11.10 :) 521 14:22 < holstein> anyways... if thats all.. 522 14:23 < holstein> [topic] next meeting - July 3rd 17:00 UTC - in #ubuntu-meeting unless otherwise noted 523 14:23 < MootBot> New Topic: next meeting - July 3rd 17:00 UTC - in #ubuntu-meeting unless otherwise noted 524 14:23 < holstein> [topic] next meeting chair 525 14:23 < MootBot> New Topic: next meeting chair 526 14:23 < holstein> i dont mind to do it again, assuming im free* 527 14:23 < holstein> anyone else interested? 528 14:24 < holstein> [action] holstein to chair the next meeting - unless otherwise noted 529 14:24 < MootBot> ACTION received: holstein to chair the next meeting - unless otherwise noted 530 14:24 < holstein> #endmeeting 531 14:24 < MootBot> Meeting finished at 13:26. ``` ### Mootbot Output [http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-meeting.20110605_1202.html](http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-meeting.20110605_1202.html) ``` 1 13:00 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with MootBot 2 13:00 Meeting started at 12:02. The chair is holstein. 3 13:01 New Topic: agenda UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 4 13:05 New Topic: old buisness 5 13:07 New Topic: Oneiric Timeline UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline 6 13:08 ACTION received: review the timeline at UbuntuStudio/Oneiric/Timeline and adjust/help as needed 7 13:11 ACTION received: holstein to re-order the timeline chronologically 8 13:12 New Topic: Website Update 9 13:17 ACTION received: scott-upstairs to research alternative hosting plans 10 13:20 ACTION received: vote next meeting about where the new site will be hosted 11 13:21 New Topic: Menu changes 12 13:26 Please vote on: hold menu re-vamp til next cycle. 13 13:28 Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4 14 13:28 ACTION received: postpone menu revamp til next cycle (12.04) 15 13:28 New Topic: XFCE/UI Changes 16 13:29 LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr001.jpeg 17 13:44 ACTION received: Should we provide a option that looks like old UI? - not officially 18 13:45 New Topic: Documentation Updates 19 13:49 LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr002.jpeg 20 13:49 LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr003.jpeg 21 13:49 LINK received: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr004.jpeg 22 13:54 ACTION received: falktx and ckontros to discuss *-controls functionality and report 23 13:56 ACTION received: Documentation - Clarification: generally help.ubuntu.com is for users and wiki.ubuntu.com is for developement 24 13:56 ACTION received: Documentation - The plan is to reorganize the help.ubuntu.com documentation 25 13:57 ACTION received: Documentation We will be deprecating older pages, modifying current ones, and creating additional pages as needed 26 13:57 ACTION received: Documentation - Is anyone else interested in assisting? 27 13:57 ACTION received: Documentation - ScottL would also like to work on wiki.ubuntu.com 28 13:59 New Topic: New Applications 29 14:00 ACTION received: plugins - mda-lv2, eq10q, autotalent,invada-studio-plugins-lv2, vocproc, wah-plugins, foo-yc20, amb-plugins, dssi-vst, lv2vocoder, omins 30 14:00 ACTION received: ladish - ladish, gladish, ladi-tools 31 14:01 ACTION received: mudita24 - envy24control update, trying to get into Debian in time for Oneiric 32 14:05 New Topic: Testing Procedures 33 14:08 ACTION received: astraljava to head up testing 34 14:08 New Topic: Libre Graphics Magazine Ad 35 14:11 ACTION received: holstein to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 36 14:11 ACTION received: holstein to get libre ad timetable information 37 14:12 ACTION received: astraljava to help scott-upstairs with brainstorming for the libre graphics ad 38 14:12 New Topic: Advocacy ideas 39 14:13 ACTION received: start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 40 14:13 ACTION received: holstein start or find the current ubuntustudio advocacy wiki and update 41 14:15 ACTION received: for marketing ideas see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing 42 14:16 New Topic: team reports UbuntuStudio/TeamReports 43 14:17 ACTION received: holstein to help with team reports 44 14:17 New Topic: announcments - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule 45 14:18 New Topic: Any Other Business - OPEN 46 14:23 New Topic: next meeting - July 3rd 17:00 UTC - in #ubuntu-meeting unless otherwise noted 47 14:23 New Topic: next meeting chair 48 14:24 ACTION received: holstein to chair the next meeting - unless otherwise noted 49 14:24 Meeting finished at 13:26. 50 14:24 Logs available at http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ ``` UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2011June5 (last edited 2011-06-07 14:50:25 by 75-143-224-172)